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Nokia 808 PureView – The true N8 successor

Yes. You read it right. It’s has 41 Mega Pixels!

Nokia has announced a new Symbian Belle based phone called the Nokia 808 PureView.

This is the true successor to the Nokia N8 which right up until the announcement of the 808 PureView phone, was still regarded as the best camera phone of all time. Now that title will now be changed to the 808 PureView and it might stay this way for a very very long time. I have reviewed the Nokia N8 camera back when it was first released even before its Anna OS update let alone the new Belle update. But even so, it was still the best camera on a mobile phone that I have ever used. Now it’s second best. Nokia has already acknowledged this fact by posting up a very bold statement on their existing Nokia N8 information page as can be seen below.

I doubt anyone can argue about this statement about the N8. =)

Some will say the new 808 PureView is still is using the dreaded Symbian just by hearing the word “Symbian” even though they’ve never even seen/used Belle let alone Anna or ^3. Yes, I highly doubt I’ll be able to convert dedicated iPhone or Android users to Symbian Belle or Carla (aka Belle FP1) and I won’t even bother trying. However, I will tell you that it is no where near as “bad” as you might think and in some ways, it’s actually just as good or better. Overall, it’s a very very capable OS that gives you multiple home screens with interactive widgets, icons, shortcuts, capable multi-tasking, plenty of apps and games, the best free offline navigation app and so on. It is also coupled with the fastest hardware that it has ever ran on so you shouldn’t have any issues with its performance either. Anyways, I won’t bore you with talking about the OS as this is not why I’m writing this article. Here is a video by Nokia of how Belle looks like and what its new features are. (808 PureView uses a newer Belle with the FP1 update that has many more improvements still)

As I don’t have a 808 PureView yet, I cannot really talk about its OS performance etc. So I will also concentrate mainly on spec comparison as well as its amazing camera for now. Here are some introduction videos by Nokia which should get you up to speed with that the 808 PureView is all about.


So what is PureView?

Simply put, it takes a photo or video at the sensor’s full resolution then resizes it to a smaller size to make it more manageable while improving its image quality and providing loss-less digital zoom. This means that this large high resolution sensor’s raw data is used to its full potential even when you are shooting at lower resolutions. This technology isn’t exactly new in the digital camera world but the extra-ordinary pixel count of 808 PureView’s camera sensor makes it more effective than anything else currently available in the industry.

Damian Dinning (Nokia Imaging) explains what PureView technology is


So what has been improved from the N8?

1. User replaceable battery. (N8 battery was not user replaceable unless you were the type to always carry a screw driver handy. So this is a big difference for those who like to carry spare batteries.)
2. Addition of LED for video light during video recording. (Some asked for it and Nokia listened. 808 now has both LED and Xenon lights. Is this a first on a smart phone? I’m not sure but it might be?)
3. Physical answer / hangup front buttons. (I wish ALL phones had these considering it is a phone after all! Usability wins over fancy design in my books and these definitely are handy for phone calls)
4. Larger 4″ AMOLED and CBD and curved glass. (It now has a more respectable 4″ screen size and it also has a better screen filter for increased contrast over the N8 even in bright outdoor situations)
5. Ultra high performance stereo microphone. (According to Nokia, it has the best stereo microphone of ANY smart phone period. Most high-end phones record up to 110dB but the 808 can record up to 140dB distortion free so you can even record rock concerts at CD quality)
6. Jaw dropping 1/1.2″ size 41MP multi-aspect camera sensor. (The megapixels is amazing but the size of the sensor is even more surprising as it’s bigger than nearly all compact digital cameras)
7. Faster Carl Zeiss f2.4 aperture lens. Wider 26mm focal length at 16:9 mode. (It’s faster/brighter and is wider. This means it is better during low light, allows shallower depth of field and capture more at once)
8. Corning Gorilla glass in-front of camera lens. (This means that it should be far more scratch resistant than the N8’s front glass as my N8 ended up with a nasty scratch on it)
9. Faster 1.3ghz single core cpu. (It seems the CPU and GPU is the same as what Nokia 700 uses but just clocked higher.  But the news is that FP1 update will also increase other Belle devices’ CPU to 1.3GHz!)
10. Doubled amount of RAM to 512MB. (This seems to be overlooked in most web sites but this is a massive increase that will surely result in noticeable performance improvements everywhere)
11. Secure NFC support (Handy if you have NFC enabled Nokia accessories or for anything else that utilizes NFC. I’ll certainly be enjoying this with my Nokia Play 360 speaker and BH-505 Bluetooth headphone)
12. Brighter Xenon flash (LED flash just isn’t good enough for flash photography so this is another excellent feature they kept. Also, Juha Alakarhu (Head of Nokia Imaging) states that it  is double as bright as the N8!)
13. Much improved camera app (Better touch interface, slide to zoom, touch AF for both photo&video, viewfinder grid, more focusing modes, live histogram during exposure compensation etc)

What does it keep from the N8?

1. HDMI output (Need to confirm but it may have been increased to 1080p output as N8 only supported 720p output. I’m very glad Nokia kept this feature.)
2. USB OTG (USB host function can come handy for hot-plugging in a USB memory stick, card reader, another phone, external HDD etc and transfer files between them)
3. MicroSD card support (Specs state it supports up to 32GB but maybe it will work with 64GB SDXC cards also if lucky. Either way, this is a must have feature for me so I’m glad it stayed.)
4. Lock side slider. (Used to instantly unlock/lock the phone without even needing to touch the touchscreen. Another superb feature which is lacking in other phones!)
5. Two stage physical camera shutter button (This is pretty much a given for such a camera-centric mobile phone. A phone without this just don’t care about photography / usability period.)
6. Lanyard hole for wrist straps / neck strap (Many phones do not have this simple yet potentially phone-saving feature and I’m not sure why.)
7. Symbian Belle OS (Although 808 comes out of the box with the newer FP1 update that has nice GUI / performance improvements. Some are now saying this is actually called Carla so technically it’s better than N8’s Belle)
8. Same 640×360 nHD resolution (Maybe this is one thing which they shouldn’t have kept the same. But as far as I know, it’s due to a limitation of Symbian OS.)
9. Mechanical shutter in the camera (This ensures that you do not end up with rolling shutter effects that can cause ugly jello effect during fast movements)
10. Built-in Neutral Density filter. (I’m not sure the density value is but I would assume it’s at least a ND4. You can also manually activate the ND filter, turn it off or set it to activate automatically.)
11. FM Transmitter (This handy feature remains built-in so that you can listen to your music in cars that has no dedicated misc-input socket or Bluetooth without needing to buy any extra hardware)

Is there anything worse than the N8?

1. Micro SIM card. (Well, for some. For people with multiple phones and swap SIM cards frequentyly (e.g. for reviewers) this can be quite annoying)
2. No 2.5mm charger socket. (N8 was able to be charged by 2.5mm or MicroUSB. It was a luxury not a necessity really but it was handy if you were copying a large file via USB OTG and your battery was low for example)

Love the front hardware buttons.. and what a sexy bump on the back.. that’s a PureView right there..


My take on the camera of the 808 PureView so far

From what I know and have read about the 808 PureView, all I can say is that the camera portion is something that I am quite sure won’t get beaten within the next 2 years by another mobile phone from a different manufacturer in terms of resoluion or its large sensor size. Image quality wise, it definitely won’t get beaten in terms of resolvable detail at its maximum 38.4MP image anytime soon either. In terms of low noise ISO however, it could get beaten if a competitor comes up with a high quality 1/2.3″ or bigger sensor with 8-12MP and good image processing. But for the majority of cases, 808 with its bright xenon flash and fast aperture lens should be more than enough to compete with phones 2-3 years from now. (In saying all this, I can only wonder what Nokia has up their sleeves next)

In terms of image quality, it looks GREAT from the sample images provided by Nokia and by others who got to use it at MWC. However, Damian has stated that this is still a prototype hardware and software and the low light noise performance has not even been optimized at all! So it is pretty much guaranteed that image quality and noise performance will get even better by the time when it gets released. Once I get a retail sample, then I will do my part in reviewing the camera and commenting on its image quality. I can’t wait!!!

Damian posted this comment on DPReview today


My wish list to Damian and Nokia Imaging team

I do realize that 808 is a mobile phone first and a camera second but the way it’s marketed/received right now, it’s ALL about the camera pretty much. So if the camera is supposed to be the best in the mobile phone industry and is the main “highlight of this device, why not make it even better? There are still some key features missing which could make it even more appealing to the photo enthusiasts and also improve usability even for the beginner photographer. So here are some of my wish list for the 808 PureView which hopefully will get added on to the retail version or added as a small update later. (Much like what Nokia did with the N8)

1. Option to display more items during shooting photos. (such as exposure information of ISO/Shutter speed, live histogram, alignment grid etc Edit: Live histogram is available during EV compensation and viewfinder grid is there for both Photo and Video modes already!)
2. Option of using the volume buttons as customizable function buttons. (such as exposure compensaton (the MOST useful of the bunch by far), ISO toggle (quite handy also!) etc. This would make it so much better than needing to touch the screen multiple times to get the value that I want. It would be one of the most popular features for photo buffs I’m sure so I hope Nokia steps up and makes it more attractive even for the enthusiasts.)
3. Option to control amount of noise reduction used. (off, low, med, high so that the user can choose how their photo is processed and choose between more detail or less noise)
4. Shutter priority mode option. (Due to the lack of Aperture control, shutter priority mode will only change the ISO value in order to provide the specified shutter speed. This can get handy as it would override Nokia’s minimum shutter speed algorithm at a certain ISO, motion movement and give the user more control.)
5. Addition of continuous mode support. (Considering it has so much processing power, I would expect it to be handle at least 3fps at full res! Edit: Damian told me that 808 just shoots continuously by default if you hold on to the shutter button but takes photos at 1fps due to so much data it needs to process.)
6. Option to touch focus during video recording. (I’m not sure if this is already possible or not so I’m just listing it just in case. Edit: Damian has clarified that this is already available in both Photo and Video mode. Nice!)
7. Video recording bitrate selection. (Option to change bitrate at 1080p and 720p would be awesome. e.g. Low (12Mbps) and High (24Mbps) for space saving or quality respectively)
8. ISO 3200 support. (I noticed that the ISO range is Auto, 50-1600 on the prototype. I don’t care if it’s too noise/grainy, I would love to have access to ISO 3200 still. To cater for the majority, AUTO ISO can still be limited to 1600 or even better would be a selectable maximum value. Noisy photo is better than a blurry one that’s for sure and there are many situations where using such a bright flash isn’t just possible so higher ISO would be great. Heck, maybe I should ask for ISO 6400 as I reckon it’ll still produce “quite usable” photos at 3MP and even more so for smaller resized photos posted on social media sites)


Product page (Quick intro)

Press Release



DPReview Article

DPReview created a very nice sensor size comparison image. As you can see, the sensor used in the Nokia 808 is relatively MASSIVE compared to most compact digital cameras using 1/2.3″ sensor while most current high end mobile phones including the iPhone4s uses the smaller 1/3.2″ sensor.

Damian Dinning explains the 808 PureView at MWC
 (video by TheHandheldBlog.com)

Nokia 808 PureView camera app demo at MWC (video by phoneArena.com)